There seems to be an agreement among both the Christians and Muslims that faith should be reasonable. There is a renewed interest in apologetics among the Christian community and Dawahs are mushrooming among the Islamic community. It will be educative to examine the approach of Jesus and Mohammed regarding the faith that they have established. By Jerry Thomas
There seems to be an agreement among both the Christians and Muslims that faith should be reasonable. There is a renewed interest in apologetics among the Christian community and Dawahs are mushrooming among the Islamic community. It will be educative to examine the approach of Jesus and Mohammed regarding the faith that they have established. We will examine their approach on broadly three areas:
- How Jesus and Mohammed did teach their followers?
- How did Jesus and Mohammed substantiate their claims?
- How did Jesus and Mohammed answer their accusers?
How did Jesus and Mohammed teach their followers?
If one examines the sermons of Jesus Christ, it is worth noting that though he spoke with authority, He always employed logic to illuminate His doctrines. To demonstrate this, let us consider a few examples. He taught about the permanence of marriage as against the no fault divorce (Mathew 5:31, 32), a radical idea both then and now. When he was questioned about this (Mathew 19:1-10), he answered: “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female. And said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh. So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together let not man separate” (emphasize ours). There is an intrinsic connection between the life-long monogamous marriage taught by LORD Jesus and the reason He gave.
Again, Jesus taught the one should trust in God and He will provide for all our needs (Mathew 6: 25-34). He provided afortiori argument for this. It can be stated like this:
Premise 1: The Father in Heaven takes care of the birds, the lilies and even the grass of the fields which is of less of value
Premise 2: You are of greater value for the Father in Heaven
Conclusion: Therefore, He will surely take care of you.
A few other instances where Jesus provided afortiori argument are: John 7:21–24, Luke 13:10-17, Mathew 9:4-6 etc. There is not a single instance in the Gospels where Jesus taught without reason or practiced contradictory to his own teachings.
Now let us consider Mohammed. Let us again take the subject of marriage as taught by Mohammed. In Surah 4:3 and Surah 4:34, there are two instructions regarding marriage. Surah 4:3 says one can marry three or four women for the benefit of orphans. And Surah 4:34 says one can beat ones wife(s) if she (they) are disobedient. One must observe the rationale for polygamy and wife beating as given in Koran.
Polygamy is justified on the basis of taking care of orphans and domestic violence (beating of wife(s)) on the basis of disobedience of wife(s). Though orphanages as instituted by the Church are an alternative way of taking care of orphans, for arguments sake, one can give some credibility to the argument of polygamy. For arguments sake, if we consider this reason, there is still no intrinsic connection between the reason given in Koran and the number four. It could have been eight or even 12. In fact, Mohammed himself married at least 13 women at a time practicing contradictory to his own teaching.
Again, one cannot find any connection between disobedience of wife(s) and beating wife(s). One can only say that two wrongs do not make a right.
All these makes Muhammad’s arguments (or Allah’s arguments) shallow and pathetic while LORD GOD Jesus’ arguments shines in its brilliance.
How did Jesus and Mohammed substantiate their respective claims?
Jesus claimed himself as Messiah (Luke 4:21), and as the incarnation of God himself (John 8:58). He substantiated these claims with numerous reasons. For example, to the disciples of John the Baptist, He argued His case in the following
way (Luke 7; 21-22):
Premise 1: If one gives sight to the blind, ears to the deaf, heal the lame, He is the Messiah according to scriptures (Isaiah 35:5, 6)
Premise 2: I do all these acts
Conclusion: Therefore I am the Messiah.
He further reasoned that the Messiah cannot be merely a human descendent of David but has to be God himself. In this argument, He established his claim as incarnation of God himself.
Premise 1: If Messiah is only a human descendent of David, he could not have called Messiah Lord
Premise 2: David called Messiah as ‘Lord’
Conclusion: Therefore Messiah cannot be merely a human descendent of David
Moreover, Jesus strengthened His case by citing the witnesses of John the Baptist, the scriptures, the Heavenly Father and His works. It must be noted here that Jesus taught His disciples about the specific references about Him in the scriptures (Luke 24:44, 45, Mathew 11:10). Apostle Mathew, one of his disciples eloquently produces all these references in the gospel he wrote (Mathew 1:23, 2:18, 3:3, 4:1, 8:17, 12:18-21, etc). His miracles were also unparallel and similar miracles happened in the history of the world only in His name.
Most importantly, Jesus attested His claims by unique and unambiguously supernatural proofs. In the gospel of John, we see these proofs. His resurrection (John 2:19), and his sinless perfect holy life (John 8:46) were offered as the attestation of his claims. The nature of these proofs is evidently sufficient for His claims.
Mohammed is said to be the seal of the prophets according to Koran (Surah 33:40). Mohammed claimed that he is mentioned in other scriptures (Surah 7:157). Further, Mohammed tried to attest his claim by challenging the men and Jinn to produce a Surah like that of Koran (Surah 17:88, 2:23). Again, in Surah 4:82, Mohammed claimed that there no contradictions in Koran.
It must be noted here that though Mohammed claimed to be referred in other scriptures, he did not produce a single specific reference to substantiate his claim. Koran does not even have one reference from other scriptures to substantiate his claim. Is it not reasonable to expect references from other scriptures in Koran itself for others to verify rather than leaving it to the wild imaginations of followers? The total lack of any specific reference in the Koran makes the first claim an empty one. The second proof, eloquence of Koran, by nature is not a good argument for its divine authorship or Mohammed’s prophetic status. In every language, there are literary master pieces but no one claims divine authorship for those. Interestingly, Koran itself produces a Surah said by a Jinn (Surah 72) exactly like other Surahs which are supposedly from Allah. If this is not enough to invalidate the claim of Mohammed, there is another Koran (The True Fuqran) with seventy seven Surahs available in www.islamexposed.org written by an Arabic poet.
The claim that the one book written by a person does not have contradiction is not a strong argument (though better than the previous one) for divine authorship or the status of a prophet. However, when Mohammed’s own companions pointed out the contradictions in Koran, he excused himself by saying that Allah can annul the previous revelations given to him (Surah 2:106, 16; 101). It again shows that Mohammed could not substantiate his claims with reason but excused himself.
How did Jesus and Mohammed answer their accusers?
During his ministry on earth, Jesus was insulted by his accusers. One time, they accused him of casting out demons by Satan (Mathew 12: 25-30). In responding to these accusers, Jesus produced a threefold argument. Jesus said that no kingdom can survive if it fights against itself. If Jesus is casting out demons by Satan, then Satan’s evil kingdom is already destroyed. Since that conclusion is evidently wrong, their accusation does not have validity.
Here, Jesus demonstrated their irrationality to them. Again, if they accuse Jesus of casting out demons by Satan, they should consistently apply it to their sons who also practice exorcism. In this, Jesus demonstrated their inconsistency.
Further, Jesus gave them a third option: If he is casting demons by the power of God, the Kingdom of God had already come. This is a conclusion they were reluctant to accept due to their sin than reason.
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rtain other times, accusers came with a few questions. For example, they questioned about the source of His authority (Mathew 21: 24, 25). At this time, Jesus brilliantly responded with a question: Where did John the Baptist get his authority from? This argument can be stated in the following way:
- If John the Baptist is from God, then he told that I am Christ.
As John the Baptist is from God, therefore, I am Christ.
If they disagree with the second premise, they would have problem from the people as people consider John the Baptist to be a prophet. With one argument, Jesus both answered their question and exposed their hypocrisy.
It should be noted here that, not even once Jesus used violence or force either directly or through disciples to silence the accusers. When one of his disciple resorted to violence, Jesus rebuked him (John 18:11).
Mohammed was also insulted by his enemies. In contrast to Jesus, Mohammed often resorted to violence and murdered both individuals and communities. Asma bint Marwan was a poetess who composed a poem blaming Medians for obeying a stranger (Mohammed) than overthrowing him. When Mohammed heard this, he asked: 'Who will rid me of Marwan's daughter?' One of the followers came forward, and murdered Asma bint Marwan while she was sleeping in her house with five kids (Ibn Ishaq, pp. 675—76 / 995—96). Similarly, at the instruction of Mohammed many more were murdered including a hundred year old man (Ibn Ishaq p. 675 / 995).
In conclusion, after examining the use of reason by Jesus and Mohammed at various times, one can say that Jesus consistently, rigorously and brilliantly employed reason: Jesus is the Master Apologist.
However, Mohammed did not consistently use the reason and even when employed it was not always rigorous and brilliant. And whenever he failed, he resorted to violence. Thus, Mohammed is a failed apologist.
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excellent article, I do not know if the debate with Imran is available. If it is available, how can I order it?
gud article.God bless u jerry . logic,reason ,evendence are the words now we heard more from muslims mouth than christian.after hearing one may think that ISLAM really based their faith on REASONS.muhammds life is enough to prove that their is no place for using logic in islam.I OFTEN THINK ,IF ISLAM IS REALLY BASED ON REASON AND CAN BE EXPLAINED LOGICALLY THAN WHY DONT MUSLIM CONDUCT A DEBATE OR DAILOGUE IN SAUDI? THAN dying in west?
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why dont you people go and teach George Bush….
Praise The Lord
It is happy to see Rizwan bck.
Rizwan what should we teach george bush?.
When Rizwan the peaceist and like many of his clan. Have no answers, when The cult of Moon Worshippers and their sexoholic Prophet Muhamad (RIP)is exposed. They resort to brand every Christian to the White House.
In Pakistan our Christian brother and Sister are also branded with USA. And Muslims are Killing Them. These Christian dont even have a passport or either know English or the map of USA.
http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/mainpic.php?id=543
Please pray for our Brothers and Sister In Pakistan. Soon we will see many like Bro. Jerry Thomas exposing The cult of moon worshippers.
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Praise the Lord(ALLAH)
first you people learn and practice the teachings of Jesus(pbuh)….then share the knowledge with people like george bush….because if u follow the teachings of JEsus , u are indirectly following Islam….your mind will be more peaceful
why you people always resort to abusing other religions and their religious personalities??? even i can do that but i refrain since Islam doesnt allow its followers to say evil about other religions(even if it were true!!)
As jesus said ” if someone slaps on your left cheek, offer him the right cheek….”
SOME OF THEIR LAST WORDS
MUHAMMAD: “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets.” Bukhari, Vol. 1, #427 [Muhammad had been poisoned years earlier by a Jewish woman whose husband was killed by the Muslims and the poison had slowly worked its effect. He said this while dying in the arms of his wife Aisha].
JESUS: “Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” Luke 23:34. (said while dying on the cross at Calvary after being betrayed and sentenced to die for no legitimate reason).
COMMENT
As We have studied both of these men`s lives, I find that the above comparison details some of the strongest character differences. Here are their dying words, words that will mark the end of their lives. Christ forgive His enemies, while Muhammad utters a bitter curse against those who rejected his assertion of prophethood. Wouldn`t it have been more appropriate for Muhammad to ask Allah to guide the Christians and Jews while he was dying?
Sorry brother. but the Jesus of the Bible is totally different from Jesus of the Quran.Jesus of the Bible has clearly taught us that He is the last. and after Him, Jesus will send the Holy Spirit to guide us, after He leaves from the earth.
Moreover brother, we have not been abusing anyone, only bringing out the facts that are recorded in your Quran, and Ahadith, and exposing the deceptive tactics of your scholars.
I hope you are not trying to say that your scholars use only peaceful words while speaking about any other religion except Islam.P
Perhaps you should first ask them to be more peaceful and not abuse everyother non-mumslim and non-islam religions!!!!!!!!!
Rizwan Said
why you people always resort to abusing other religions and their religious personalities???
Muhamad(RIP) in his entire life time abused the faith of Pagan Arabs, Jews, Christian, Zoroastrian, Animist.(But still worshiped Pagan Moon Allah and made his own version of his ancestors faith)
Ahmed Deedat(RIP) In his entire lifetime Dawahs
business, Mocked Jesus, Bible, Christians, Church well as other Faith. (Deedat preached less about islam, Allah, Muhamad. Instead criticized Other religious faith)
why you PEACEIST always resort to abusing other religions and their religious personalities???
Rizwan your words are for you cos, indirectly we dont follow islam cos.
first you people learn and practice the teachings of Jesus(pbuh)
Stop Bowing down towards Black Stone Kaaba.
Stop Divorcing your Wife.
Stop Marrying girl Child.
Stop marring Your daughter in laws.
Stop Killing innocent in the name of your prophet religion.
Stop using Lunar calender
Stop worshipping Moon AllaH
Start to Forgive, Pray and love you enemy.
On the day you people start worshipping the True God of Isreal. This will surely Help us preach the Gospel to Politician & President of USA.
Rizwan Jesus Loves You
Stop animal Sacrifice.
Stop
When we follow Lord Jesus, do we indirectly follow Islam? Far from it. We stand against it.
Jesus commanded us to love each other. Muhammad asked men to ill-treat their wives.
Jesus- Excerpt from the Last Sermon
John 13:34-35
A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
Muhammad- Excerpt from the Last Sermon
Tabari
Al-Tabari, Abu Ja’far Muhammad b. Jarir. The History of al-Tabari. Vol.IX: The Last Years of the Prophet. Translated and annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala. State University of NewYork Press, Albany, 1990. (Pages 112-114).
“Now then, O people, you have a right over your wives and they have a right over you. You have [the right] that they should not cause anyone of whom you dislike to tread your beds, and that they should not commit any open indecency (fahishah). If they do, then God permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain from [evil], they have the right to their food and clothing in accordance with custom (bi’l-maruf). Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals (‘awan) with you and do not possess anything for themselves. You have taken them only as a trust from God, and you have made the enjoyment of their persons lawful by the word of God, so understand and listen to my words, O people. I have conveyed the Message, and have left you with something which, if you hold fast to it, you will never go astray: that is, the Book of God and the sunnah of His Prophet.
Ibn Ishaq
Reference: Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad b. Yasr, Sirat Rasul Allah. Translated in English by A. Guillaume. First published by Oxford University Press, London in 1955. Fifteenth reprint by Oxford University Press, Karachi, Pakistan, 2001. (p.651)
You have rights over your wives and they have rights over you. You have the right that they should not defile your bed and that they should not behave with open unseemliness. If they do, God allows you to put them in separate rooms and to beat them but not with severity. If they refrain from these things they have the right to their food and clothing with kindness. Lay injunctions on women kindly, for they are prisoners with you having no control- of their persons. You have taken them only as a trust from God, and you have the enjoyment of their persons by the words of God, so understand (T. and listen to) my words, O men, for I have told you. I have left with you something which if you will hold fast to it you will never fall into error—a plain indication, the book of God and the practice of His prophet, so give good heed to what I say.
Nishabd (meaning silent) is a 2007 Bollywood movie directed by Ram Gopal Varma, starring Amitabh Bachchan and Jiah Khan.Directed by Ram Gopal Verma, the movie is based on Vladimir Nabokov’s novel Lolita.
This is story of an affair between a 60 year old married man and an 18 year old girl. Amitabh Bachchan is playing the lead role against the new comer Jiyah Khan.
I want to find out how and what inspired Vladimir Nabokov or Ram Gopal Verma, ?
I have heard a similar kind of story the ballad of Muhammad(pbuh)and Ayesha(pbuh)
I am sorry if it hurts some one. Because when Nishabd was released. There was a huge cry and protest. Some even called it pornography of human culture.
Today if I have to discuss the life of Muhammad(pbuh). I have to think twice cos its may be regarded A rated story.
I hope Salman Is reading my comment.
bro jerry iwanted 2 say u that’NO MUSLIM IS A MUSLIM IF HE/SHE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST{P.B.U.H}”[QURAN]
AND WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS BORN MERACLIOUSLY WITHOUT ANY MALE INTERVENSION” which u christians does not believe MAY ALLAH GUIDE U 2 RIGHT PATH INSHALLAH 🙂 🙂 🙂
‘NO MUSLIM IS A MUSLIM IF HE/SHE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST{P.B.U.H}”[QURAN]
Dear Brother Muhamad Ali. No Bahai is a Bahai if he does not believe in either Jesus or Muhammad. What does this prove?
Bahaism is the only non-Muslim faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe not just in Jesus but believe in Muhammad as well.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS BORN MERACLIOUSLY WITHOUT ANY MALE INTERVENSION” which u christians does not believe
many Muslims also deny Jesus’ virginal conception and birth.
The late Maulana Muhammad Ali of the Lahore sect of Ahmadiyya states in regard to S. 3:43:
THAT JESUS WAS CONCEIVED IN THE ORDINARY MANNER AND THAT MARY BECAME A WIFE AND MOTHER IN THE ORDINARY WAY.” (Ali, Holy Qur’an – Arabic Text, English Translation & Commentary [Ahmadiyya Anjuman Isha’at Islam Lahore Inc. USA 1995], pp. 141-142, f. 422; bold and capital ours)
Another prominent Muslim who denied Jesus’ virginal conception and birth was Sir Syed Ahmad Khan.
‘Sir Syed denies the Qur’anic doctrine of the Virgin Birth of Jesus Christ, holding that such a birth would be an interference in the course of nature and was, therefore, impossible.
Below links give detail information to rebuttals to zakir naik by bro.Sam Shamoun.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Naik/concept.htm
Muhammad Ali are classic examples of peaceist cult. the interactive audience of peace tv. followers of zakir naik.
Greetings to you Mr.Muhammed Ali. sorry to know that you have no knowledge about what Christians believe and what is written in the Bible. I will explain –
It is written in the Holy Bible (Mathew 1:20-25) :- vs.20: Behold an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
vs.21: And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.”
vs.22: So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying:
vs.23: “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”
vs.24: Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife,
vs.25: and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name Jesus.
Now i will explain exactly what is meant in these verses. First of all this incident happened, when Joseph married Mary, and understood that she was already with child, so he had a doubt about her being a virgin. This was the time when an angel of God appeared to him in a dream saying that he should not be afraid to accept Mary his wife because that which is born in her, is of the Holy Spirit(God). In verse 22 and 23 it says that this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by God through the Prophet Isaiah (the Prophet lived and wrote this centuries before Jesus was born). In the Prophet Isaiah’s book it is written – Isaiah 7:14 reads :-
“Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.”
in verse 25 it says that ‘Joseph did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son.’ that means Mary lost her virginity ONLY after the birth of Jesus. Joseph kept her a virgin till Jesus was born.
Hope you now got an answer and understood that the Holy Bible also says (just like it is written in Quran) that Mary was indeed born without any male intervention, and that she was a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus. We as Christians believe what is written in the Holy Bible. so i hope u understood what Christians ‘believe’. Moreover, i suggest that you read the Holy Bible so that you yourself can understand the differences between the Holy Bible and the Quran. I personally have read the Quran while i was yet in my school(i studied in a muslim school in Dubai) and so i know what exactly is written in the Quran and me being a Christian, i know what is written in the Bible and what we as Christians believe.
May the Lord God bless you abundantly and give you the knowledge and understanding to know the Truth.
Robin
I am extremely sorry i jus noticed that I made a mistake in writing in the last paragraph – “That Mary was indeed born without any male intervention…” i actually meant 2 say “Jesus was indeed born without any male intervention” and not Mary. Sorry for the mistake.
Instead of muslims coming here and throwing abuse and saying unprofessional comments, I would appreciate it if they would use they’re God or allah given wisdom to respond to the reasoning muhammed used in the three instances brought forth in the article.
Everytime a islam is intellectually cornered, they resort to some form of violent response – either verbally or physically. This maybe shows the emptyness of the faith they believe in to be true. It also shows how much they have “submitted” to a religion that is not logically consistant.
So any wise and sane muslims here, please respond to the points brought forth in the artcle.
If you do not, we will be forced to assume that Islam is just a man made religion and its followers are blind followers submitted to an imaginary entity called allah who had a servent by the name of muhammed
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Jerry in this article only said Koran says “marry 4 wives in 4:3 and in 4:34 it says “beat your wives”. BUT !!! Jerry intentionally or unintentionally misinterpreting the ayaths from Quran, the Quran says 4:3 “And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, TWO or THREE or FOUR. But if you fear that you will not be just, THEN [MARRY ONLY] ONE, the only religious scripture on the face of the earth which says MARRY ONLY ONE., and in 4:34 it says “Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband’s] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance – [first] ADVISE THEM; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], STRIKE them. But if they obey you [once more], SEEK NO MEANS AGAINST THEM. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand” the Quran never said beat them black and blue or make them paralysed, nothing of that kind, according to the tradition of prophet regarding this ayath he said “beat them with a small stick[Miswaak, used to clean teeth]”, it is only of half a feet, and it does not leave anybody paralysed.
BUT if u read the Holy BIBLE “INSPIRED” by God Almighty what does it says about women, it says in 1 corenthians 14:35 “And if Women want to learn something let them ask thier own husbands at home, for it is shameful for women to speak in church”, according to this verse no women is allowed to speak into the church, is this upgrading or degrading the women, God Almighy is “revealing” a verse and commanding a women not the SPEAK in the CHURCH, now u see how many women are visiting churches to gain knowledge.
And if u read John 2:4 “Jesus calls is mother as women, would you address your mother as women, and he uses the same word for an prostitute, the women who was caught in illegal acts, we cant beleive that this mighty messenger of God can ever refer his mother as women.
According to another verse is records “inspired by God” in 1 corenthians 11:6 “For if a women is not covered, let her also be shorn, but if it is shameful for a women to be shorn or shaved, let her be COVERED.
1 corenthians 11:15 “but if a women has long hair, it is glory to her, for her hair is given to her for a covering”,
God Almighty is revealing such cammands to women, that she should be covered, by God till now I have never seen a christian lady covering herself apart from Nuns, the good example is America and other western countries
But if you read the Glorious Quran in Surah Noor 24:31 Allah commanded women to cover herself, from that day by the grace of Allah the Muslim women they covered themselves, never mind how illeterate they are but u can find them in Hijab, this is the glory of Quran the cammand is given we have to follow, one might come up and say that there are many Muslim ladies in bollywood and in other fields they are not covering themselve, their deeds are with Allah, Allah will judge them on the day of judgement, as Allah is the Master of the day of Judgment,
So Jerry Thomas with great due respect I request you not to misinterpret the Ayaths of the glorious Quran.
excellent article :grin
jesus and muhammed P.B.U.H are the messengers of allaha. jesus never told in bible workship me.he never told that i am god.i respect and belive jesus as messenger of god ulmite allah